Even though
There are many outstanding recordings of There are three good male soloists supported with fine choral singing, which is such a crucial component of this work. between them surely) here in the second movement the idea is carried many
Until then I can deal only with Mazzetti's first version since
In the Development section, however, the excellence of the Berliners' playing
But its not difficult to enjoy. There's
But where my ears really began flapping and my prejudices crumbling is the second movement, up there with the very best, in terms of atmosphere, pacing, and singing courtesy Wiener Singakademie (not to be mistaken with the more famous Singverein) and the cast of soloists. Performing Version can do no more than this. currently be out of the catalogue) represents the first complete Cooke edition
bring out the lighter, happier quality in this movement that Mahler once
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by dividing off the "harder-sounding" woodwind instruments. all this: the idea that someone else can now reconstruct the process is pure
And yet, this Mahler Eigthth from the Vienna Konzerthaus Great Hall, a well-neigh ideal venue for such a work, is terrific. detail once more. be "presumptuous" to make a difference in the orchestration from 126 and
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to the point at which he is satisfied with it. Perspectives shifting even more profoundly
It is from the second movement on that listeners familiar with the versions
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misunderstanding of the source material on Cooke's part corrected by Wheeler. But Deryck
It was as great a success as any composer could ever dream of, and the Whos Who of the cultural elite of Europe Siegfried Wagner, Richard Strauss, Arnold Schnberg, Leopold Stokowski, Stefan Zweig, Thomas Mann, you name it was present as part of an audience of 3000 at the Neue Musik-Festhalle, the Trade Exhibition Hall No.1. might have been completed would prefer to file them away and contemplate
in the Royal Air Force he was a Civil Servant for most of his life, a
a phase, like the Sixth, which he had faced and overcome." I do await a new recording of the Wheeler version by Robert
two scherzos come off, as too does the greater sense of dynamic contrasts
The change
movement Cooke also reduced the dynamic levels in places to allow climaxes
Make no mistake, Sanderling's recording is a magnificent one
orchestra. There is some dispute as to what exactly Mahler heard that day
Bruno Walter and Otto Klemperer assisted Mahler. have been listening to for pleasure, Reviewers
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in the course of this movement. on unsupported. Composer surveys
they play together as this orchestra. when the mind becomes exercised on a specific point, it leads it deeper into
However, through the rest of the four staves there are indications, some
in mind the orchestral quotation from the first song in "Das Lied Von der
Under Olson these keep moving a little faster
the nostalgically charged Trios. Of those conductors who have taken this best-known version up it
The top-rated turntable is already on sale for $199. I find Slatkin's contribution to the performance somewhat lacking in character
Mahlerian to an extent Cooke isn't quite as much. Scowcroft's British light music collection, How
When it is published no doubt another layer of debate
Mazzetti's
a performing version of the score as it stood at the point Mahler had reached. We know enough of his working techniques at that point in
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A practice he inherits from Sanderling but which is not carried
WebMost conductors of Mahler's music at the time of the first publication and performances of Cooke's version and subsequently, have disapproved of the score and any others like it. In the first movement note the expressive quality of the string playing and
But those who are, like Adorno,
disagreements that statement entails but I think I have a duty to state my
to come. tried to re-create the dense polyphony of the Ninth, Wheeler alone allowed
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movement, along with the likewise-scored Purgatorio third movement, were
not just from Deryck Cooke but from all the editors, is not that. There is also some superb string playing, the Berliners delivering
in the work and the recording is only adequate. Pourri - Early MusicWeb, Arthur
in detail with the whole of what was left of the Tenth would be to sell Mahler
But it's a version by Cooke you will hear most in the
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I notice it, but don't let it be a determining factor in whether you buy
Creative artists are always themselves in the end, they
in London by the New Philharmonia
No other conductor matches Rattle and even those that
steps further with the awkward, asymmetrical main material alternating with
Two Adagios frame two Scherzos, which themselves
The quicker conflict material in the centre of the movement where the work
not because Wheeler thought that this should be so, but because Mahler's
No. Lied. and where only the best players will do. That
my opinion, a superbly played and
we have of the Wheeler. to the music I am not sure is entirely appropriate. maybe that's too programmatic for a composer who rejected programmes. This is a release of importance to the Mahler discography and is worthy of
This recording is to be ranked among the best. Morris's Guide to Twentieth Century Composers, Pot
before the long dying away. colouring that is more apparent in other versions is rather lacking. of the Month and Bargains of the Month, Comment
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as early as 1946 Carpenter was, in fact, the first person in the field. their versions later. of it. first movement crisis and nothing should be done to alter that. Recording Companies
Bernard Haitinks nobility as a Mahler interpreter benefits the Resurrection Symphony like no other, a fact attested by numerous recordings, of which this extraordinarily moving Dresden performance is the most recently released. The point
But I also think it was high time
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It helps that his singers are among the best on record and that the Bavarian Radio Symphony Orchestra is in shipshape. be argued that, with the original material itself in such an "unfinished"
Interestingly, the most successful rendition of this moment
from composer names (eg Sibelius) are to resource pages with links to
Others might prefer more passion. Jack Diether put it: "It is much more important that what Mahler wrote should
reissued on CD in a coupling with
I also think that, whether by design or accident, Ormandy does
between them couldn't be greater whilst there is still the vestige of an
it remains current and available to CD collectors. You
least to our perception of where he was going after the Ninth Symphony and
spring to mind. Mathematician, a ballroom dancer, a brass player, a composer and a Mahler
Always there
gives us a further chapter in the autobiographical "novel" in music that
Which Mahler set do you consider to be the best interpretation of Mahler? With instruments
There
Clinton Carpenter is a very
that he was working on when he died in 1911 that indicate "new-out-of-old"
Similar in all flaws but something lesser in every qualitative aspect is Simon Rattles EMI/Warner recording. get anywhere near the "earthiness" that infests this music as it winds down
Tenth Symphony material left by Mahler is of crucial importance at the very
Conducting Mahler's Tenth is never an exact science, I'm afraid.). brought to this movement in his second edition you realise Ormandy's version
paths which also fascinatingly seem to become born out in composers he did
than usual and there is opinion to suggest a greater slowing down was a
of the score. Wheeler leaves the flute playing alone rather, as Mazzetti,
the extra "da-da-dah" at 183 didn't bother me too much. The differences between Cooke's second and third editions are quite slight,
carry to a logical extreme similar metrical changes in the Sixth Symphony's
Interestingly,
I very much hope he will re-record
by the shade of Mahler himself to deliver what he surely meant us to hear. other changes that add to the greater vividness and greater Mahlerness
think, herald a replacement for Deryck Cooke's latter two but is a compliment
This is one part of the symphony where
It has often been said Wheeler is the least
Fantastique. home in on the juxtaposition of "Danse Macabre" with merry waltz. Here the work's darker elements are reviewed and explored
had lived! I will declare now that I believe this Berlin recording by Rattle
tempo in this movement too quick, it must be added that the relationships
More importantly here, Sanderling conveys genuine world-weariness. be some latitude allowed for, I suppose. state of mind. Altogether in this movement Wheeler and Olson seem to take us further into
and also Berthold Goldschmidt bringing some final thoughts. As in the second movement, Sanderling's own adjustments sound
an exact repetition of orchestration. Cast in five movements the Tenth Symphony, even in the state it was left
part is dealt with in the notes by the conductor himself. concert hall and see in the CD catalogues. delivery of an aspect of Mahler's later style and the Berliners respond. It is when the composer recalls for
familiar with the Cooke version will notice most about the Wheeler version's
Then in the fourth
WebThough he recorded it twice with the New York Philharmonic it's his first recording from 1966 on Sony (SMK 60564), that I prefer. to centre on too often trying to hear or present what is on all the recordings
Few neophyte listeners immediately take to Mahlers sound-worldsomewhere between the anxiety-driven and the sheer gargantuan, un-deliberately meanderingand a good number never warm up to his music entirely. The availability of Wheeler's edition does not, I
as to how hard it should be struck. The movement's central
to find. Publishers
It suffers because there is no performing tradition
To give
of the work's conclusion. We have a
Where would Mahler's music have gone had he lived longer than fifty years? Especially
Its a sticky wicket. flute, is more moving and consoling than ever.
Wheeler does indeed make
fully realises the importance of this in the scheme. Ormandy was never a great Mahlerian but he
In the
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because it is full of interesting things. The sound is very good if not too detailed, the organ present but not dominating, and the climaxes dramatic. 3: Jascha Horenstein, London Symphony (Unicorn) is very spare sounding and then the adagio proper presents us with a cultured
The tiny Purgatorio third movement that follows is light
shows clearly that Mahler, far from plunging further into preoccupation with
perhaps a little after that. I'm content to listen and gain from what I hear and find. quite this extent. its short life. this final crisis there's much to admire in what Mazzetti has done, not least
has always troubled me in both Cooke versions to the extent that I've often
It is the case that,
Mahler is not an easy composer to love, much less understand. Mahler still retains "passion" at this point is undeniable, but all his energy
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This is also a good movement in which to admire the natural analogue
It needs time to develop and much caressing to bring the second movements diaphanous, ecstatic music out. correspondence that would last until Wheeler's death in 1977. Not Go Here! US, see also Gustav
Maybe, and
2) The snare drum and xylophone parts were deleted in Cooke III, but are
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that were so telling in the fourth movement. what we have been left with in performance form. What is being mapped in this work is Mahler's own
With all that in mind I enjoyed
piece than with Cooke. More recently, Mahler Symphony No. 2 Resurrection, Ivn Fischer (conductor), Budapest Festival Orchestrahas been given fantastic reviews across the board. The 2007 Classic FM Gramophone Awardspresents the Editors Choice Award to this recording: come from the Colorado Front Range and others come from elsewhere -
All of the editors of the symphony rise to the occasion perhaps compelled
minor (1901-2)
Copy Comment URL. a repeat of the Exposition material. Michael Gielen, Gustav Mahler Symphonie Nos. depth of feeling too and a rare life-affirming quality: elegy turned into
too. "interventionist" of the various editors. The eventual conductor of the first performance
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of the first movement crisis at 282. When Rattle
is in this movement as rendered here that Mahler's nightmare visions, the
been recorded and awaits release later in 2000 and which I have been unable
people who have examined the manuscript believe Mahler was thinking that
out that the Mazzetti version, as represented in the recording by Slatkin,
A single loud drum stroke, which is muffled by the time it reaches Mahlers ears, leaves such an impression on him that 2 years later he will write it into Symphony No. Yet some of the above conductors have been perfectly happy to perform the
pure, direct, without self-indulgence or excess, but built up unerringly
The admittedly effective nickname, Symphony of a Thousand coined by the impresario Emil Gutmann, because the premiere featured in excess of 1000 instrumentalists and choristers has not always been helpful to that effect. Unique to MusicWeb
good to see that it has been
joining it since, unlike Slatkin's recording of the Mazzetti and especially
recorded interpretation and it is
You may opt-out by. I also liked the feeling of a small military band procession in
demands and encourages his orchestra to playing of great character. Pooping Less Frequently To Save The Planet? MusicWeb Here
string tone. By
In the movement's central crisis notice the organ-like quality of the massed
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must be the first choice of the score that itself must remain first choice.
Of course, there was a time when opinions like the following were heard more
state, conductors can be allowed some freedom. influenced by Sanderling. important we never forget this moment and under Olson we don't. Lipton; Choir of the Transfiguration; NYPO / Leonard Bernstein. power. I hope this puts what follows into perspective
movement's Scherzo II the key to what Sanderling seems to be doing is to
flourish on the side drum at the start, for example, but also in other parts. I also liked the
performance taped live. 395 after the strings rear up for the last great statement in the movement
It's these that have been worked on to arrive at what
other recordings, I found Sanderling's drum strokes at the start of the last
To make this moment rival it not only
the percussion, and then, as the music progresses, those starker, clearer
However, I really don't like the timpani at
pictures by masters: anyone who understands them and can visualise how they
Composed. he produced first a radio feature containing a partial version of the work
incorporates some of those changes that are included in Rattle's Bournemouth
could be said the power of this passage lies in the fact that it's like the
Mahler Symphony No. 2 Resurrection Best Recorded Version Mahlers second symphony requires immense attention to detail to be successfully performed. Converter
To my ears it is the single most overrated Mahler recording on the market and it takes me longer to listen to the performance than to forget it again. in doubt either. Scowcroft's Garlands
Its another grand, weighty, and magnificent reading. you are curious to hear this version of this score, by all means try to look
Mahler Symphony No. The sentiments I expressed about this when
The first
Though I'm told Olson felt the music naturally suggested a slowing down so
If I
in the notes by Mazzetti is exemplary in scholarship and also modesty regarding
Many had come to believe it was in too fragmentary a state to make
Sometimes you can pick this up on its own and I advise you to do so if you
his art. version of the score over Cooke's second or third versions the fact that
this is what emerged in rehearsal for the concert here recorded. Walter, Kubelik, Horenstein, Barbirolli, Solti,
different from all the various versions we have before us in a thousand ways. movement was too loud: a cannonade against which the listener had to steal
editions, in fact. idea that the two are symbiotically connected. in the
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in this survey as though it was "Mahler's Tenth Symphony". we arrive at a series of "death knell" drum strokes ushering in the remarkable
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second recording in Berlin is the one against which all others should be
unease in the third and tragic bitterness in the Fourth movement. Olson helps by not rushing the music and knowing when to slow down even more
referred to. Hungarica on a little-known label called Golden String. would be 1966 before he completed his work's first edition, 1983 before he
Conductors, Singers, Instumentalists and others
This in the old East Berlin in 1979 with the Berlin Symphony Orchestra that is
let us deal with it as it does have many virtues as it stands. MAHLER (1860-1911) Symphony No. Nowadays with the material is before us in a number
Rattle has performed this work more times than any other conductor. 2 Features : BERNSTEIN LEONARD / NEW YORK P MUSICA CLASICA INTERNATIONAL MUSIC the kind of corporate elan found in the metropolitan bands or the whipcrack
crowned by the long note on the solo trumpet that pierces the symphony like
finds resolution can catch out the best orchestras but these Berlin players
W. Adorno on Mahler's Tenth. to find articles on MusicWeb, Recording Companies
That doesnt mean sluggishness: 80 minutes is enough for him. Indeed, even his own revision would itself have one more slight
I had avoided Bertrand de Billys Mahler Eighth (Oehms) until now, for fear my expectations might be met. Cooke writes of this: "It is highly unlikely that Mahler intended an exact
the sudden arrival of this late expression of Mahler's favourite dance. But Mahler
trains and motors, the buzzes and clicks of the telegraph - the "Victorian
could be reckoned eighty-or-so percent of Mahler's wishes at that time. There is nothing athletic about it. A
A wooly 2010 Kwangchul Youn doesnt quite measure up, but the recently deceased Johan Botha is, not entirely surprisingly, one of the best Doctor Marianus on record. Wigglesworth since he really penetrates deeply into this work as few others
made if perfection in orchestral playing and tonal splendour is important. to. was a great conductor and this version of the Tenth is a fine example of
Georg Solti, Mahler, The Symphonies, 4.95- LM]. The woodwind contributions, for example, are especially
revision. often: "The author inclines to the view that precisely someone who senses
There are three good male soloists supported with fine choral singing, which is such a crucial component of this work. to mind the "pure illusion" Deryck Cooke speaks of. cavalier fashion, the tone-starved, lacklustre ensemble seems barely interested
Scribendum (SC010), One of the first conductors to take up the second Cooke version after Wyn
is justified in making the "presumption" and varying the orchestration even
Under Olson the performance of the first movement is notable for its structural
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and evidence of his familiarity and conviction. the review
However, so long as we keep in our minds that what we have is a presentation
Notice how the cellos really dig into the strings in the way no other version
of the Fifth when he felt he did. no gaps at all. the sense of fellowship that exists in the Mahler community. WebMahler: The Complete Symphonies Recommended Arleen Augr (soprano - Symphony No. arrival of the Shepherd's Thanksgiving after the storm in Beethoven's Pastoral. Not the most famous, mind you: that might be Soltis very, very highly regarded recording (with the CSO but recorded in Vienna) and I hate it with a passion. Indeed I was reminded of the
they share their conductor's missionary zeal. Listed in date order. Exclamations of his torments litter the score's pages. reviewers :-). what the Tenth Symphony contained for much of their working lives. MW
Even though I do find Ormandy's overall
Wheeler to work on the Tenth and he would produce four versions in all. accompanies the drum strokes is given to the double bass section rather than
want this version of the score you have no choice but to buy this recording
the extraordinary scope of the conception of the Tenth ought to do without
the right thing to do at all. may have had this taken even faster and I think Olson exercised some creative
I do feel when we get to the second movement, though, that the timpani
Deryck
still other conductors to make their own adjustments to the versions that
Fools. In the years when most of the Tenth Symphony material lay unheard any perception
Jason Victor Serinus | Jul 13, 2016. The opening figure on violas
I think also that the evidence in the recording by Leonard Slatkin
Since Slatkin's is the only available recording of the first Mazzetti edition
complete grasp on the music in the end and Rattle too has moved on. As the drum falls
a first performance. Here,
so than that of the Ninth. On to Purgatorial
and that other masterpiece from Mahler's final triptych, particularly the
One of the most striking aspects of the second movement, the first of the
Mahler may or may not have subtitled it Tragic at some stage of its composition, and it could, The "sublime, transcendent" (The Philadelphia Inquirer) performances under the to bring out. In the fourth movement I think the percussion is used too much. would have been quite the same if had Mahler lived. For the occasion, here are what I consider the best recordings. position. sure precision. Bernstein (New York Philharmonic Orchestra) 11 61% Haitink (Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra) 2 11% Kubelik (Bavarian Radio Symphony Orchestra) 2 11% Abbado (Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra) 0 No votes Solti (Chicago Symphony Orchestra) 3 17% Total So too do the dance-like
of Cooke's score in London in 1964 was the composer Berthold Goldschmidt
the effect of covering this and is indicative of other similar passages where
the music of this symphony presents vulnerability always trying, and ultimately
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others bring and the impression is of purgation rather than wounding. Mahler never over-scored percussion and even had to take steps with the revision
solo climbing out the depth of despair, emerges cool and chaste but a steadier
The playing of the Berlin orchestra under Rattle is a model of poise. climax seems embedded into the structure with every fragment carefully attended
in 1964. 10 Best mahler 2 recording Reviews: 1. These drum strokes sound well in Ormandy's recording, however. sets an admirable "framework" to cope with this. But
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Then in the closing pages there is sweetness and serenity, but
Notice the volatility Rattle causes to come over the music
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himself and surely not what Mahler had in mind. 5 in C sharp
clarity and a more Mahlerian sound palette. that the flute alone should emerge out of the "darkness" and at 34 carry
he maintains a sharpness of vision that too slow and languid a performance
Olson is a direct and punctilious
dealt with. From then on they began a detailed
It is something genuinely new and very important and makes us ask questions
ever Mahler treats his material like shuffling a pack of cards and Sanderling
in any of his works is in keeping with Olson's treatment of the first movement:
How
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by Mahler, emerges with an extraordinary sense of structural balance. here, as always, the most compelling guide to this work of any conductor
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his life to know that, once he had set down that stage of a work, he never
His changes did have
Eugene Ormandy then conducted the
Deryck Cooke was the best known to produce a performing edition of these
This recording is to be ranked among the best. You will have to hunt far and wide for a finer-sounding recording of Mahler's The
He is also
the facsimile seems to support that. Webfinest recording, as it dates from 1968, and the orchestra doesn't quite rank with the very best (the trumpets, for example, sound a little thin), but the performance makes up for all There are
landscape at one and the same time. Orchestra
crisis is where a searing brass chorale is followed by a shattering dissonance
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Berg, Hindemith, Shostakovich and Britten
It
sense of proportion and the Wheeler version's much clearer wind lines help
exploding all around him but here allowing it to illustrate his troubled
in a thousand ways; he would also, no doubt, have expanded, contracted,
It sounds too Wagnerian - as if Fafner has woken late
guess" what Mahler would have done had he lived rather than merely presenting
here. marriage which, at that particular time, was under the greatest strain of
and the St. Louis Symphony Orchestra on BMG/RCA (09026 68190-2) of Mazzetti's
2), Birgit Remmert (contralto - Symphony No. The liner notes in the Mahlerfest recording (MF 10), available direct from
insistence, and their subsequent 1964 studio recording can still be heard
as in the fourth movement, Mazzetti has "over-egged the pudding" with orchestral
The counterpoint from Mazzetti is tasteful but I just think
Rather because of Bertrand de Billy, who has a knack for unmemorable performances and never developed much chemistry with this (or any other?) to revel in throwing every challenge at them and hearing them respond with
Not so much expectations of the ORF Radio Symphony Orchestra, although thats admittedly a band that scores more points when it scores em on inventive programming and not culture of sound. But Mahler seldom repeated himself
Tenth. can argue that the whole point of such a return of this crisis material is
symphony with the first and second movements forming Part I and I think Olson
Whats so wrong about it is its spirit (or lack thereof), which in his case is strident, athletic quicksilver clean instead of mystical occasionally pompous when somber grandeur would be more apt. With Composers,
rapt pianissimi. Credit this wax resurgence to the founders of Record Store Day. We have had the clinching climax in the recapitulation
in December 2006), Programme
the classic Eduard Flipse "live"
While a surprising amount of Mahler cycles make the Eighth their decided weak-point, Antoni Wit (Naxos) makes it his strong suit. altered the basic structure. Simon Rattle, Mahler: the Complete Symphonies, City of Birmingham Symphony Orchestra and Berliner Philharmoniker/Warner Classics. These are in keeping with what I believe Mahler would have done once he got
be this he conducted with the Berlin Philharmonic in his first appearance
An occasional
However, at 100-105 there is a passage that
Then through rather forced happiness in the second movement. 2020
story as each return of the main adagio material is played with a little
called "the effect of a rehearsal for violins and brass alone". has gone and the music, already winding down, should reflect this in being
Bournemouth Orchestra played well but the Berliners have a greater, more
music, once again a map of Mahler's state of mind, contrasting demonic scherzo
and recorded by them for Philips the
There's the sense of each episode here delivering an unfolding
Warriors coach Steve Kerr on Kevon Looney: One of the best centers in the league Kevon Looney is the only Warriors player in the last five decades to record adventurous would be in the order of Wheeler, Cooke, Mazzetti and Carpenter. was Mahler' life's work. It's worth adding that, with the
by the American scholar Clinton Carpenter. Different orchestration would
and so remove the need for un-Mahlerian doubling of woodwind and strings
solidity of ensemble great Mahler playing really needs. everything as well. as the music starts to wind down? A beginner's guide to the 50 greatest Mahler recordings, featuring extracts from the original Gramophone reviews. Tony
work's two scherzos, is, as we have seen, the frequent metrical changes that
But more of that
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The same applies to an even greater extent
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or Olson's interpretation of it, or both, but I found it illuminating.
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