Maybe you can write you story based on the facts you have and put it out in the media. You also falsely asserted (12:39:00 PM) that Anderson Cooper referred to Mr. Willingham as innocent. Maybe Stacy can get with Rick Perry and they can get there lieuhmI mean story together.10/28/2009 11:22:00 PM-----------------------------------In addition to the He said she said and the overall trying to make him guilty because he was not he nicest of people and of all things listened to heavy metal .Which of course makes you guilty That really is ridiculous and makes the pro side look foolish . Death Notice. They say he didn't know they were watching and only pretended to try to want to save his kids after witnesses arrived (firemen). This off topic. It's the least you can do, biatch! The bottom line for me is that his account of his actions does not make him look heroic, but it does not make him look guilty of arson either. Disclosing a work product is a violation of attorney client privilegeThe court stated that its ruling was based on atty client priviledge and not work product. And again, if an atty is being accused of IAC they have the right to defend themselves. To the Anonymous poster(s),You were the one to bring up attorney client privilege, falsely implying that it does not survive death (10:19:00 AM). They had the evidencethey could have sent her to the electric chair but they refused to do anything about these murders and the attempted murder. Annon Cyber Bully What is your agenda ? For one thing, he seems to have contacted only one arson expert as a possible rebuttal witness. Not that the behavior of Gov Goodhair John Bradly and the disgraceful defense attorney and the fanatical Pros have been a stellar example of doing everyth9ongot look as if you have something to lose and hide by him being innocent . Go find a law library and start reading or pay for the privilege to access one online The more Goodhair ,TDCJ and the Pro DP fanatics cover up the worse it looks for them . This, together with your use of thefreedictionary.com as a source for legal arguments and your nonsensical references to work-product makes it clear you should keep away from those substituted phenylethylamines in your day job. Stacy Kuykendall Grim. And there isn't one of us who knows how we would act under the same set of circumstances. And as the years went by, she probably gave in to that idea. It's clearly not simply "depraved indifference", because the standard for depraved indifference is firing guns into crowds of people, or driving a car through a crowded pedestrian area running people over, something that, while not specifically intending to kill any specific person, shows a callous disregard for human life. If the prosecutor murdered Willingham and Goodhair helped them get away with it, and they all met at the local watering hole to celebrate their accomplishment, Goodhair would be guaranteed the governorship by the voters of Texas. By his own words he intentionally left Amber to die. When you awake from a deep sleep and your home is blazing the first thing I wondered is if I were still asleep and if running from the fire is part of a nightmare. This thread was about the reliability of the grieving mother's statements and the remorseless insensitivity of Mr. Grits and the rest of you Monday Morning Quarterbacks who brand her a liar because you don't like what she says. She committed three 1st-degree murders, and an attempted 1st-degree murder, yet she was never charged in the other 2 murders, nor in the attempted 1st-degree murder. Anonymous at 3:20 PM,Stop lying and misleading people. TDCJ EX seems like a law professor compared to you.Whatever. Mr. Martins attack of innocence project, which have helped many wrongfully convicted persons regain their freedom, is indefensible. my way through a subject that I have no knowledge of - you have and you have done so repeatedly. She was known as a caretaker to everyone . I apologize for not being clear.Depraved indifference is defined by gross negligence, Willingham left the house without any of the children, he admitted he yelled at his two year old for waking him to tell him the house was on fire but didn't take her out of the house with him when he left, he was not severely burned in an attempt to rescue his children, he didn't give his own life for that of his children so in the eyes of some, his behavior would be considered depraved indifference because he made no effort to rescue his own children. I do not know how long TDCJ keeps this my guess is forever in case of any legal action. You are not. And she's doing it many years later when she has presumably had time to heal emotionally and "see the truth" as it were.It's interesting she is allowed this latitude as a battered wife and grieving mother but Todd, who has just been confronted by the mother of his babies and essentially asked "what the hell are you doing alive?" Join Facebook to connect with Stacy Kuykendall and others you may know. We're not supposed to charge, convict and execute people for being the kind of human being we don't approve of. Just because you claim to not know how you would act doesn't mean that others of us don't.You don't, unless you've been in a fire -- and I mean a real fire, not an exploding barbecue or a smoldering sofa you put out with the fire extinguisher. This is looking like Goodhair and company have something serious to hide. So what get over it. I claimed only that Mr. Willinghams first appeal did not raise ineffective counsel, not that he never raised this issue; please stop uttering falsehoods.Because it is not raised in an appeal, therefore, your statement was irrelevant, ignorant, and deliberately misleading. Shame on you for ignoring her pain.Chris. Real classy. Then I became AGAINST murderbefore birth and after birth. The reason he was immediately suspected was the mere fact that he was alive. Something they thought terribly funny. I haven't lied or tried to b.s. Either she is lying now or she lied in the past, including under oath at her ex-husband's trial. It is not something I am educated in but I see many shades of gray between the black and the white. She was never charged in this 1st-degree murder. Dr. Beyler concluded that a finding of arson cannot be sustained. Susan (Stafford) Kuykendall, Age 77, of Coal City, Illinois (formerly of Minooka/Channahon, Illinois), died peacefully, surrounded by her family on January 11, 2023, after a valiant battle with ALS. PS: In my 5th paragraph, I said "Accidents do NOT happen and this fire was NO accident." But justice is to sell to the highest bidder. He was born July 5, 1944, in Charleston, to the late Floyd Hardy and Clara Cleora (Wilson) Kuykendall. I've filed Texas Public Information Act requests for audio conversations between Texas Death Row offenders and their approved visitors. No lawyer with integrity would so slander a dead client to save face. As more people gathered and the police and FD arrived, then he was the grieving father. OBITUARY Leroy Gene Kuykendall October 16, 1930 - April 19, 2023 IN THE CARE OF Mount Vernon Memorial Park & Mortuary Leroy Gene Kuykendall, age 92, of Sacramento, California passed away on Wednesday, April 19, 2023. By repeatedly citing his carpet pseudo-experiment, Mr. Martin showed that he still does not understand that floor patterns cannot be interpreted by eyeball. Willingham's ex-wife, Stacy Kuykendall, has kept a low profile throughout the debate over his execution. Stop lying in every post. There may well be a case somewhere in this country where an innocent was executed. His suffering would have gone on and on with life in prison. Moreover, as I have demonstrated above, defending oneself is not the same thing as declaring your client guilty beyond question. Then we have a statement from Stacy's brother saying that she told him that Willingham confessed. They called it an accidental death, but we know better. The women loved my brother. It probably does not exist because he never said it and it would have been used against him in his final appeal which would be public Just go to the Federal courts web site and sign up for PACER here is the URL http://pacer.psc.uscourts.gov/If a confession did exist it would have been released by now Seeing this blog is read nationally more than likely there are lot s of open records request for it . Not only will it be great to hear the tape but it will also tell us who also had this brilliant idea before you. He was born on May 30, 1964, in Sikeston, Missouri, to the late Carmen and Ethel Cates Kuykendall. She had to have lied.10/28/2009 08:15:00 AM : No, give your respect back to Grits. We don't know if Beyler's failure to interview this key witness was due to simple incompetence or if he was intentionally avoiding the truth in a perverted attempt to maintain plausible deniability. If we're going to hold the state to its proper burden some possibly guilty people will walk free. Stop lying and misleading people. He didn't give a shit about his kids or trying to help the fire dept. But the reality in today's social climate is, that if a DA thinks he can use it to file charges against a parent in what may be no more than an accidental death because of public outrage, that DA is going to file depraved indifference and use the same arguments we've been hearing the revolting peasants with their torches using here. Apparently those who think he is doing so don't understand the Texas conservative political ideology which drives his constituency. Did he receive an adequate defense? His story changed, I understand, 27 times. Bradley has six grandchildren: Chloe, Eva, Matthew, Blake, Nicolas, and Maximus. Yesterday, Willingham's former wife, Stacy Kuykendall, released a statement to the Fort Worth Star-Telegram saying that he secretly confessed to killing their three daughters, who died in a fire . So I ask, given everything Texas has riding on being right on this one, would it be so hard to believe there could be a conspiracy, worthy of a bad novel at work here? in Hendry Country, Florida and other people involved. After everything I've seen and read, I would have to say no he did not to all of the above. The guy is dead can't fix that . Meanwhile you have not produced one scintilla of evidence to say otherwise or in any way shape or form to defend your position. I'm sure that for years after she defended her husband, all her friends and family were like "Oh, honey, all these scientific experts say that Todd must have done it. Not a pleasnt thought either That is a whole new area . None of my reactions were what I expected.So you have been through a fire and handled it calmly. If you consider that his confession and he didn't set the fire, he may have been a lousy human being for not attempting to save the children. We just multiply. Tuttle. As for the emtonial argumnets well that is just plain specuation and one down right offsive . Do I agree with this assessment? Correct me if I'm wrong here. But I have much more respect for the person who can step up to the plate and say "I made a mistake. That was until she spoke. Call it what you will, conservative political ideology, blame it on religion, too many years of chronic inbreeding, or something in the water, but I've traveled to some interesting places in my life and of all of them, including the ones with bombs blowing up things, the ones where you could get shot at for kicks, the ones where you could disappear for just being in the wrong place at the wrong time or where you must deal with officials who would sell their mother into prostitution on a whim, Texas is the one place that really scares me. Another correction:Paragraph 6, I said "I see the same pattern in his case as I see in her caselack of remorse, continuously changing their stories, continuously lying and telling fantastic stories that are clearly true. What the evidence was then, irrespective of it's form, should be weighed into account with new advancements in technology to determine once and forever if Willingham was a guilty person.If innocent, place a moratorium on the death penalty until we have better conclusive evidence in these matters. There is not one word about a supposed confession in the article from the Corsicana paper. Annon Cyber Bully you protest too loudly as they say . There was the appearance of a solid case. Your defense of Martin and his actions is no more than a feeble grasping at straws to defend a fast sinking ship. They violated her confidence and made claims on her behalf that she herself contradicted consistently from the time of the fire at least through 1999, when she last gave a recorded interview. It is s possible they do have something serious to hide that goes beyond Willingham ? Good for you! It is unlikely that he set a fire and then decided to take a nap. Equally possible are a hundred other scenarios. Anon 2:27, that is the most cogent explanation of the death penalty farce in Texas I have ever heard. The pathology of the conservative political ideology which has consumed Texas is apparently widely underestimated and misunderstood. The stories go on and on and in the end, the only thing that matters is did he or did he not deliberately set that fire? Ferrari Funeral. To me, her statement quoted in the Star-Telegram is a lot more genuine and straightforward than the double hearsay quotes that you are basing your opinion on, Grits. I think David Grann's discussion of Stacy Kuykendall's statement is fair and insightful: http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2009/10/stacy-kuykendall-statement.html. Stacy Kuykendall is telling her story in her own words on the Sunday, Feb. 14 season premier of the series Evil Lives Here on the Investigation Discovery channel. Even Judge Jackson concedes that Stacy has said different things at different times. They do record every Death Row vist from all I have been told by both boss and convicts . But then Texas executed a man innocent of the charges they convicted him of. In so doing, he also made it clear he still does not understand a major thrust of what Hurst, Beyler, and others are saying: a visual inspection of "pour patterns" is meaningless in determining whether or not arson was committed. I meant to say "Accidents just do NOT happen right out of a clear blue sky with no possible explanation as to what caused it and this fire was NO accident. Not even for actually being Satanists if that's what floats their boat. KUYKENDALL, JR. Mr. Frederick Thurman Kuykendall, Jr. - a native of Geiger, AL and a resident of Mobile, AL since 1952 died Thursday, August 22, 2009 in a local hospital. Piss people off and they will be looking for an opportunity to bring you down.We have this great saying of "Kill them all and let God sort them out".That seems to be the theme in TX. I am considering the TOTALITY of the evidence.
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